Michael Moore Says Trump Could Be Our Last President Ever

The documentary filmmaker said Trump is so dangerous “because he has a complete lack of ideology.”

Donald Trump could be our last president, according to Michael Moore.

The documentary filmmaker told MSNBC’s Chris Hayes he believes it is entirely possible our current POTUS could be the very last person to hold that office in the United States, during a conversation about Moore’s new film, "Farenheit 11/9."

"I think it’s possible, absolutely," Moore said. "I think that we have someone in the White House who has no respect for the rule of law, who dislikes democracy by an incredible degree, which doesn’t make him really any that much different from other billionaires or CEOs because their businesses are not democracies."

"They rule by fiat. They decide, they make the calls and they don’t like anybody else having a say. They also like to take home the bulk of the money, with them. So this is — putting somebody like that in charge of a democracy is a very dangerous thing, and especially, it’s more dangerous with him because he has a complete lack of ideology."

The MSNBC host probed Moore further, asking him if he really thought Trump was "more dangerous because he doesn’t believe in anything?"

Watch the interview below.

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"Absolutely," Moore replied. "People say to me, well, if we impeach Trump, we’ll have Pence. I go, great, at least he believes in something. I’m not afraid of having a debate with Pence over whether or not Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago."

Hayes interrupted his guest to tell viewers Pence most likely does not believe the biblical characters actually rode dinosaurs.

Moore, however, shifted to a more serious topic: "He [Pence] also believes that if you’re gay, you can be converted into being straight." The filmmaker argued that Pence having a discernible belief system made it easier for the American people to confront and challenge him on important issues, whereas Trump played by no identifiable or consistent rules.

Moore’s latest film’s title "Fahrenheit 11/9" is a play on the name of his most successful movie yet, "Fahrenheit 9/11" — both of which were inspired by the Ray Bradbury science fiction novel about fascism, "Fahrenheit 451."

The date, November 9th 2016, is the day Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton was sealed. The film takes a deep dive into understanding how America ended up with Trump as president, but Moore hopes viewers will walk away with more than just a few new Trump facts.

One of the concerns on the film’s radar is 21st century fascism, as it examines how the media in 1930s Germany normalized Adolf Hitler, allowing him to rise to power.

In a recent interview with THR, Moore said the examination of Hitler’s rise is not meant as a direct comparison between Trump and the man who ordered the holocaust, but is intended more as "a serious point about fascism."

"It comes from a book, ‘Friendly Fascism,’ by a philosopher named Bertram Gross. He talks about how the fascism of the 21st century would not be like the fascism of the 20th century," Moore explained. "It would not come with concentration camps and swastikas, but with a TV show and a smiley face. The fascists of the 21st century will convince the people to go against their own interests by using television and branding. I don’t think we should be afraid to call this out for what it is."

On the subject of getting President Trump out of office, Moore thinks celebrity candidates may be the answer for Democrats.

"We need beloved figures running. Say what you want about Trump, but tens of millions watched his show," Moore said. "We need Tom Hanks, Oprah, Michelle Obama. Who would not vote for Michelle Obama?"

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