Phillip Schofield in hysterics as woman retches 10 times on live TV over fear of custard

This Morning: Phillip laughs as caller retches over custard

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Phillip Schofield and Rochelle Humes were joined by resident therapists Nik and Eva Speakman on Monday’s This Morning as they encouraged viewers to get in touch with their concerns. Rochelle introduced one caller, Michelle, who was afraid of custard and was unable to say the food item’s name without retching. Phillip struggled to keep composure during the call and apologised for breaking down in hysterics. 

Michelle began: “I can’t even say it it’s vile, it makes my skin crawl, it makes me retch the colour of it, the thought of it, the look of it, everything.”

“And you can’t say the word?” Phillip questioned. 

“No not at all,” the caller replied and Rochelle said: “You said you couldn’t say it so I said it for you.”

The viewer remarked: “I call it the yellow stuff you put on apple pie.”

Phillip said to The Speakmans: “We’ve known each for years and years and it’s extraordinary the things [people are afraid of] because you say you’re only afraid of two fears the fear of falling and the fear of loud noises, so we acquire these things. How did this happen?”

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Nik said: This has got to be trauma-related I would have thought because it is not something that is common.”

Eva continued: “I must add when you’re looking for the origins of your phobias that’s trauma in context because if something happens to you as a child, something that is traumatic to a child is completely different to what an adult would find traumatic so it’s got to be in context.

“There is always a trauma, there is always the foundation and it is usually something from when you were little so what could have happened?”

Michelle replied: “It was from my childhood from my primary school we were forced to eat it and it wasn’t the best when I was younger it was lumpy.”

The This Morning caller retched as she recalled being made to eat the dessert food.

“If you can get me over this fear I promise you I will have a bath in it,” she said.

Eva replied: “That’s a challenge we’re willing to take on. The first thing you’ve got to do is challenge that foundation because once that foundation is broken the whole structure of that fear falls apart. 

“In your case what I’d like you to consider is if I were to come up to you with a rolled-up newspaper and hit you with a newspaper why would you blame the newspaper?”

“Because you hit me with it,” Michelle answered and Eva asked: “It’s the newspaper’s fault, is that what you’re saying?”

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“No, I’d say it’s the people who forced me to eat it,” the caller shared. 

“What we always say is you’ve got to see it for what it is and not how it felt. What I see here and this might seem a little odd, I see you and the custard as equal victims here,” Eva said.

As the caller continued to retch, Phillip struggled to contain his laugher and apologised to the viewer for losing composure.

As Eva encouraged Michelle to see custard as a victim, she asked Phillip: “Are you alright Phillip?”

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“It was lumpy,” the caller replied as she retched for the fourth time. 

Phillip and Rochelle both burst out laughing as Eva continued to give advice to Michelle. 

The Speakmans promised to help Michelle but the caller couldn’t help but continue to retch. 

“I’m so sorry Michelle for laughing but that is an extraordinary noise,” Phillip commented after the caller had retched 10 times. 

Rochelle added: “I feel terrible for laughing,” and Phillip added: “It’s just such a terrible noise.” 

This Morning airs on ITV on weekdays at 10am.

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